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“NO!” to City Retiree Bonus Payouts.

Danville City Council will start the process on paying a bonus to City of Danville retirees on the pension plan during Tuesday’s meeting.

It’s tough to have to say it, but SouthsideCentral is strongly against this action.

Here’s the Council Letter that will be dealt with on this coming Tuesday…


 

CL- 952 New Business Item #: E.
City Council Regular Meeting
Meeting Date: 08/19/2014
Subject: Retiree Pay Bonus
From: Joseph C. King
COUNCIL ACTION
Business Meetings: 08/19/2014 – First Reading
09/02/2014 – Final Adoption – Public Hearing
SUMMARY
City Council has determined that a bonus payment is to be issued to qualified municipal retirees. The associated costs will be as much as $450,000. The accompanying Ordinance amending the FY 2105 budget to expend up to $450,000 from the General Fund unassigned balance and authorizing payment of retiree bonuses is presented for first reading. Two readings of the Ordinance are required. If approved, a certain amount of work will be required to compute bonuses and test the system before payments can be issued. It is expected that bonus payments would be incorporated into retirement checks issued this November. Retirees will be properly informed.
BACKGROUND
City Code Chapter 32 governing the Employees’ Retirement System does not provide post-retirement cost-of-living increases or bonuses to retirees. However, in accordance with Council’s Financial Policies, lump-sum pension bonuses of up to one-half of the retiree’s normal monthly benefit amount that do not increase the retiree’s base pension payment may be appropriated by City Council from current operating revenues. The stated criteria required for consideration of such bonuses has been met. They include:

The cumulative inflation growth since the most recent pay adjustment for retirees as measured by the “All Urban Consumers Consumer Price Index” (CPI-U) has been at least 5%;
The Retirement System’s funded status for the prior fiscal year is at least 90% (as calculated by dividing actuarial value of assets by the accrued liability as of the appropriate valuation date);
The City’s contribution to fund the normal cost of the pension plan, as a percent of payroll, for the budgetary period under review is no more than 12%; and
Operating revenues from applicable funds are available to cover the cost.

RECOMMENDATION
Having expressed its intent to grant eligible retires a bonus in accordance with its adopted Financial Policies, it is recommended that City Council approve the accompanying Ordinance to authorize and finance said bonuses.


As stated above in the letter, city retirees on the retirement system don’t get cost-of-living increases or annual bonuses. They get a certain amount per month for the rest of their lives. I’ve published a complete list of those payouts for all city retirees. As you can see, that list is quite top-heavy with 170 people pulling in over $2,000 per month.  When you get down to the bottom of the list, there’s really not that much money being paid out.

These payouts are guaranteed for life thanks to strong money management by the pension fund committee.  These types of pension funds simply don’t exist in today’s world for the majority of people. It’s almost a luxury now to have this type of guaranteed payout, so I don’t have much of a problem with the lack of cost of living adjustments for these people. The retirement fund payouts weren’t designed to be the sole income source for retirees.

The city retirees deserve their pensions as they were promised to them. One half of one month’s payout for most of these people will be a nice “present”, but it’s not going to do much for any individual in the long run. I’d have no problem if this bonus payout was being taken out of the retirement fund account like their regular monthly payments are, because that money has been set aside and can’t be touched for regular city business. During council discussion on this issue, they found out to use the retirement fund money to pay the retiree bonuses would require the pension fund to have to be re-analyzed for adequate funding levels. That would cost a lot of money, but would be doable. The new plan is to leave the retirement fund untouched and to take this proposed bonus money from the city’s general fund. I’ve got a serious problem with that.

The city is already on the ultimate hook to repay US Green Energy’s Tobacco Commission grants if the business defaults. Things aren’t looking good for USGE. Web Parts, so that’s well over $1,000,000 right there. Web Parts is a complete Job Bust and there’s another million dollars. Macerata Wheels” Same, for $600,000. This list has a serious potential to grow and the City of Danville and their general fund will be likely paying those bills. Danville’s already had to pay $400,000+ for that idiotic unused railway spur to Swedwood and more payments are going to be forced out.  The City Manager & City Council would regain economic development credibility if they simply came forward and admitted the true negative payback potential of these Job Busts. Folks, that money’s going to come from the taxpayers in one form or another. Yes, it will happen.

I’ve got lots of friends who are city retirees and I understand their desire for something extra as a bonus. With these impending financial calamities (not to mention a Utility Fund that’s millions in the negative). now is not the time for it. Paying out up to $450,000 to city retirees out of the city’s general fund would be a beautiful gesture to the city retirees, but a horrible example of financial irresponsibility to the taxpayers of Danville.


SouthsideCentral is STRONGLY OPPOSED to this Danville City Council proposal based on the city’s current financial issues and impending payouts due to Job Bust failures. We strongly urge you to contact councilmembers and express your opposition to this financially irresponsible ordinance.

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13 comments to “NO!” to City Retiree Bonus Payouts.

  • Lee Smallwood

    You haven’t even mentioned that there is a significant shortfall in the Virginia budget for the period that ends June 30, 2016. While funding for the first year from the Commonwealth to the City is set, that means all of that shortfall hits Danville for the next budget period. I’m not opposed to the idea of localities in a place like Danville providing a bonus to retirees, but it sure seems like a bad time to do it. Things are bad for the Commonwealth. It’s almost certainly all due to the throttling back in federal spending. It would be a much better idea to at minimum wait to see how bad things are next year before making this type of payout.

  • Lee Smallwood

    Another thought about this — if it’s mostly about retirees who really have it hard due to low pension struggling, if they really have to do something why not just make it a flat amount handout per retiree. I’d propose perhaps $500. That may help the folks with really low pensions a lot more, and I’m not sure we’re really all that worried about the folks who would get a mere $500 on top of their $2000 a month pension.

  • That $450,000 could provide a real nice shot in the arm for Danville’s economy. I realize that some retirees have moved on to sunnier climes, but a lot of us are still here and would spend the money here.

    • Agreed, but all of the taxpayers in Danville are going to have to pay for these Job Busts and not just the retirees. If they take this bonus money out of the pension plan, I’ve got no problem with it. I’ve got strong opposition about taking it from the general fund.

  • Harold Garrison

    Why do government workers feel that they should get a “cost of living increase” to their retirement? I worked for industry and draw a retirement form International Paper Co. There is no “cost of living increase” to my retirement. I draw the same amount of money every month as long as I live. Why should I have to pay for a city worker to have a “cost of living” increase. No to not just this – no to any “cost of living” increase for city retirees.

  • Jerry

    Mr. Smallwood is correct. That wouldn’t be a very fiscally prudent move at this point considering state cuts to the City are going to happen with this new deficit.

  • Which workers are considered on this list?

  • […] On to retiree bonus issue. Shanks is leaning towards the thoughts of my OpinionCentral against the proposal. Gary Miller and Alonzo Jones support the bonuses. Buddy Rawley against. Vogler defers his opinion. In Gary Miller’s speech, he talks about how the city workers “served” the city. Buddy Rawley calls that out by saying saying “serving” really isn’t the right word. They had a job, the city was their employer, and they employees did their job. We’ll find out the end result on this in two weeks. I will keep the SouthsideCentral pressure on, because I’m solidly against this proposal as written. […]

  • Nicole

    1. Do these retirees also receive social security? 2. Are these pension payments taxed (and if so, those poor people on the bottom of the list won’t be getting enough to buy a turkey at Food Lion)?

  • […] and those should pass without any problems. We’ll move to the city retiree bonus proposal. SouthsideCentral has gone on record against this and our opposition is even firmer now. City Council would be extremely financially irresponsible to give this money from the general fund […]

  • WeHaveMoneyForWhat?

    Contact the following if you are disappointed that they see it as fiscally responsible to spend about $450,000 for bonus payments to retirees from the General Fund…Remember, the City takes millions from utility dept. for the General fund.
    Gary Miller 799-0908 gary.miller@danvilleva.gov
    Larry Campbell 228-3664 larry.campbell@danvilleva.gov
    Alonzo Jones 792-4773 alonzo.jones@danvilleva.gov
    Sherman Saunders 799-8737 sherman.saunders@danvilleva.gov

    Call or email Lee Vogler 792-0937 Lee.Vogler@danvilleva.gov; James Buckner 792-1207 james.buckner@danvilleva.gov. If they vote “NO” for retiree bonus it should fail.

  • […] Harold Garrison speaks against the retiree bonus and covers the topic well by using statistics. Council is hard to read as Garrison goes over his statistics. James Turpin speaks for the retirees and the bonus. Sheila Baynes speaks against the bonus. I speak against the bonus with the points that I raised in my OpinionCentral about it. […]

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