{"id":7388,"date":"2011-08-22T23:29:37","date_gmt":"2011-08-23T03:29:37","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.southsidecentral.com\/wordpress\/?p=7388"},"modified":"2011-08-22T23:29:37","modified_gmt":"2011-08-23T03:29:37","slug":"tossup-simple-request-or-chilling-effect","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.southsidecentral.com\/wordpress\/2011\/08\/22\/tossup-simple-request-or-chilling-effect\/","title":{"rendered":"TossUp!: &#8220;Simple Request&#8221; or &#8220;Chilling Effect&#8221;?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>County sheriff elections are bad for the amount of animosity&#8230; but they make for good TossUps!<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p><em><strong>(Editor&#8217;s Note<\/strong>: I&#8217;ve had my differences with HalifaxTalk before, but I&#8217;ll defend anybody that is dealing with a potential free speech issue.)<\/em><\/p>\n<p>HalifaxTalk: <a href=\"http:\/\/halifaxtalk.com\/phpBB\/viewtopic.php?t=14698\" target=\"_blank\">Jeff&#8217;s FOIA Stuff<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Let&#8217;s go over some background information quickly. Jeff Oakes is the former sheriff of Halifax County who was defeated by Stanley Noblin in the 2007 election cycle. Oakes is still quite bitter over that and is Noblin&#8217;s biggest critic. We&#8217;re now in the 2011 election cycle and Oakes is trying to dig up any less-than-favorable information about the Noblin administration. Oakes claims he has used the Freedom Of Information Act to get lots of documents that will show Stanley Noblin should be defeated in his first re-election bid. Oakes has used the HalifaxTalk message board to lob attacks at Noblin and Noblin has chosen not to reply.<\/p>\n<p>Let&#8217;s FastForward to the current TossUp! Oakes has came forward with two documents and Darrin Talbott (the owner of HalifaxTalk) decided to host them on his personal webspace that he gets from being a GCROnline customer. Talbott got an email from GCROnline asking him to remove the documents from his personal webspace, saying that they didn&#8217;t want to have any political content there. This has brought some howls of protest from supporters of Fred Clark (Noblin&#8217;s challenger) saying that this decision was politically motivated. I decided to check out this story and see what both<br \/>\nTalbott &#038; GCROnline had to say about it.<\/p>\n<p>In an email conversation with Glenn Ratliff (the owner of GCROnline), he said that it was just a request. After follow-up questions about the request, Ratliff said (via email), &#8220;As a private company, we don&#8217;t reveal too much about our customer<br \/>\nrelationships. Darrin can provide you with all the information you need if he chooses to provide it.&#8221; <\/p>\n<p>Talbott went ahead and removed the documents from and posted the documents on his own website that he pays for. In an email conversation with Talbott, he said that he complied with the request but &#8220;I told them that it disturbed me to have to move it.&#8221; <\/p>\n<p>I called GCROnline today and spoke with Glenn Ratliff. he said that although there is nothing in the company&#8217;s Acceptable Use Policy barring political content, the members&#8217; site is described as &#8220;Personal web pages are a useful medium to convey your hobbies and interests to a large audience, the world.&#8221; He also said that once this election cycle is over, his company may clarify what is wanted on the personal website area. I asked him what he would have done if Talbott had refused his request and he said that they would have moved on. Ratliff was clear in saying that there was no political motivation in the request and that is was a simple request to keep the members site politically-free.<\/p>\n<p>So that happened. I feel that both Darrin Talbott &#038; Glenn Ratliff are trustworthy and I&#8217;m inclined to believe what they say. Perhaps it was just a &#8220;Simple Request&#8221; and not an attempt to stifle political speech in a &#8220;Chilling Effect&#8221;. There are plenty of free webhosting services on the internet, so there are plenty of places to put whatever content you want out there. I can also see the point that Jeff Oakes and the Fred Clark supporters have in saying this decision was politically motivated.<\/p>\n<p>What do you think?<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>(Editor&#8217;s Note<\/strong>: I attempted to make contact with Fred Clark today, but he did not return my call. On a side note, I have left multiple messages at different times for Fred Clark to return my calls with not much success. I&#8217;m disappointed in that.)<\/em><\/p>\n<!-- AddThis Advanced Settings generic via filter on the_content --><!-- AddThis Share Buttons generic via filter on the_content -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>County sheriff elections are bad for the amount of animosity&#8230; but they make for good TossUps!<\/p>\n<p> [&#8230;]<!-- AddThis Advanced Settings generic via filter on get_the_excerpt --><!-- AddThis Share Buttons generic via filter on get_the_excerpt --><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[63,28,45],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-7388","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-halifax-county","category-politicscentral","category-tossup","odd"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/pwqFk-1Va","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_likes_enabled":false,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":7352,"url":"https:\/\/www.southsidecentral.com\/wordpress\/2011\/04\/05\/newsspotting-only-seven-months-to-go\/","url_meta":{"origin":7388,"position":0},"title":"NewsSpotting: Only seven months to go&#8230;","author":"SouthsideCentral","date":"April 5, 2011","format":false,"excerpt":"It's News. It's a ThreadSpotting. It's complete stupidity about the upcoming Halifax County Sheriff's race. It's all of those combined! HalifaxTalk: Traffic Checks Let's get to the news part of this first. Here's the press release from the Halifax County's Sheriff's Office... In a joint effort to curb drunk and\/or\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Halifax County&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Halifax County","link":"https:\/\/www.southsidecentral.com\/wordpress\/category\/locations\/halifax-county\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":6521,"url":"https:\/\/www.southsidecentral.com\/wordpress\/2010\/03\/08\/threadspotting-quickhits-38\/","url_meta":{"origin":7388,"position":1},"title":"ThreadSpotting QuickHits! (3\/8)","author":"SouthsideCentral","date":"March 8, 2010","format":false,"excerpt":"It's two, two features in one! We always thank our readers for the HalifaxTalk ThreadSpotting submissions, so let's knock a few of them out quickly. You got your ThreadSpotting in my QuickHits! a question of security - No, we're not spotting this one because of former Halifax County sheriff Jeff\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;OpinionCentral&quot;","block_context":{"text":"OpinionCentral","link":"https:\/\/www.southsidecentral.com\/wordpress\/category\/opinioncentral\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":13931,"url":"https:\/\/www.southsidecentral.com\/wordpress\/2015\/09\/07\/halifax-county-elections-update-1-part-2\/","url_meta":{"origin":7388,"position":2},"title":"Halifax County Elections \u2013 Update #1 \u2013 (Part #2)","author":"SouthsideCentral","date":"September 7, 2015","format":false,"excerpt":"We've already published Part #1, so let's finish up our first look at the upcoming Halifax County elections. We'll cover the school board and all of the constitutional office races. But first, we'll take a look at the all-important (not) Board of Supervisors tiebreaker position. Let's get started! Tiebreaker: The\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Halifax County&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Halifax County","link":"https:\/\/www.southsidecentral.com\/wordpress\/category\/locations\/halifax-county\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"sclogo","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.southsidecentral.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/sclogo.jpg?resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200},"classes":[]},{"id":5157,"url":"https:\/\/www.southsidecentral.com\/wordpress\/2009\/08\/30\/time-machine-2003-halifax-county-elections\/","url_meta":{"origin":7388,"position":3},"title":"Time Machine: 2003 Halifax County Elections","author":"SouthsideCentral","date":"August 30, 2009","format":false,"excerpt":"I'm thanking Fred for the motivation to go back in time today and look at the 2003 election cycle in Halifax County. So what happened back in 2003? 2003 Halifax County election results So what do those number really mean? Let's do a breakdown. Commonwealth's Attorney: Kim White was facing\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Halifax County&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Halifax County","link":"https:\/\/www.southsidecentral.com\/wordpress\/category\/locations\/halifax-county\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":5246,"url":"https:\/\/www.southsidecentral.com\/wordpress\/2009\/09\/07\/jeff-oakes-appeals-his-computer-trespass-conviction\/","url_meta":{"origin":7388,"position":4},"title":"Jeff Oakes appeals his &#8220;computer trespass&#8221; conviction.","author":"SouthsideCentral","date":"September 7, 2009","format":false,"excerpt":"SouthsideCentral has one word about this development...\"WHY?!?!?!\" In related news, John Greenbacker is probably making plans for a luxurious vacation. Former Sheriff Appeals Conviction Um... yeah. The only person that's going to win on this is John Greenbacker. He's going to get his legal fees.","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Halifax County&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Halifax County","link":"https:\/\/www.southsidecentral.com\/wordpress\/category\/locations\/halifax-county\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":5139,"url":"https:\/\/www.southsidecentral.com\/wordpress\/2009\/08\/30\/missing-child-in-alton-area\/","url_meta":{"origin":7388,"position":5},"title":"UPDATED: FOUND! Missing child in Alton area","author":"SouthsideCentral","date":"August 30, 2009","format":false,"excerpt":"(Originally Published on Aug 29, 2009 @ 21:51) UPDATE: Wrapping up this story with the full rundown. UPDATE: The child has been found. We're putting this at RumorCentral level right now but one of SouthsideCentral's good sources has reported in... We've confirmed this from a second source, so we're upgrading\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Breaking News&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Breaking News","link":"https:\/\/www.southsidecentral.com\/wordpress\/category\/newscentral\/breaking-news\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]}],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.southsidecentral.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7388","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.southsidecentral.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.southsidecentral.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.southsidecentral.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.southsidecentral.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=7388"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.southsidecentral.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7388\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.southsidecentral.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=7388"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.southsidecentral.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=7388"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.southsidecentral.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=7388"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}