{"id":7211,"date":"2010-08-27T14:26:47","date_gmt":"2010-08-27T18:26:47","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.southsidecentral.com\/wordpress\/?p=7211"},"modified":"2010-08-27T14:26:47","modified_gmt":"2010-08-27T18:26:47","slug":"threadspotting-thou-shalt-not-hate-unless-theyre-gay-can-sing","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.southsidecentral.com\/wordpress\/2010\/08\/27\/threadspotting-thou-shalt-not-hate-unless-theyre-gay-can-sing\/","title":{"rendered":"UPDATED! &#8211; ThreadSpotting: Thou Shalt Not Hate (unless they&#8217;re gay &#038; can sing)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>What if God was <del>a gay recording artist<\/del> one of us?<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>HalifaxTalk: <a href=\"http:\/\/halifaxtalk.com\/phpBB\/viewtopic.php?t=12541\" target=\"_blank\">Jennifer Knapp coming to SOBO!!!<\/a> (Innocently named threads make for horribly fun ThreadSpottings!)<\/p>\n<p>Look at that&#8230; South Boston&#8217;s getting an accomplished recording artist to appear at a local restaurant for a small concert at a reasonable price! What could be possibly wrong with that? Not so fast, Sparky! Our good friend <strong>Grasshopper<\/strong> throws some bigotry (It&#8217;s ok, folks&#8230; It&#8217;s Christian bigotry) and says that Jennifer Knapp is one of Them There People! Not one of them there Australian people, but one of them there people that&#8217;s done &#8220;come out&#8221;. The Horrors!<\/p>\n<p>After taking a small amount of Righteously Deserved heat for her Revelation, Ms. Hopper drops this instant classic line&#8230;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8230;Yall don&#8217;t have to freaking slaughter me on HT though&#8230;.geez&#8230;seems like HT is out of control lately. We all make choices, just mine not to support gays.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>We&#8217;re glad to report that the aforementioned &#8220;freaking slaughter&#8221; did continue in a mild format. Various participants shoot holes into the Holy Ground under Ms. Hopper&#8217;s feet and she begins tap-dancing as the Hate-filled Hilarity Ensues. Ms. ras expresses my feelings (albeit a lot more mildly than I would have put it) when she says &#8220;Why does this turn of this thread leave me feeling sad?&#8221; Unfortunately, Ms. ras, there are narrow-minded people in the world.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;d like to end this ThreadSpotting with the following hypocritical quote from Ms. Hopper&#8230;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8230;I am not God and can&#8217;t judge&#8230;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&#8230;while she sits on Her Throne and judges anyway.<\/p>\n<p><del>Springer&#8217;s<\/del> Bruce&#8217;s Final Thought: I have zero tolerance for any form of discrimination and this world would be a lot better if everybody else had the same thought process. I&#8217;m ashamed to see somebody like Grasshopper show disdain against other people because of their sexual preference. She says that people would totally understand why she thinks like she does, but the only reason I can think of is that she&#8217;s taking her religion way too far when she&#8217;s filled with prejudicial hatred. I&#8217;m betting that she works alongside people who are gay, so I have to wonder how far her bigotry extends past the recording industry. LeAnn Creasy, your discrimination and prejudices embarrass me. Shrouding your hatred by the cover of religion just pisses me off.<\/p>\n<p>Oh yeah&#8230; Freddie Mercury was gay.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong>Update #1<\/strong>: In the thread, <strong>wildhandyman<\/strong> said&#8230;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>My advice to Grasshopper and others whose identity is known to those who might thread spot an opinion here and there: You might want to contact Darrin and ask that you be given a completely new user name that is not connected with any of your current or past posts&#8230; and this time try to keep your user name\/identity a little closer to the vest. I cannot speak for DT, but I don&#8217;t think he would mind considering that option.<\/p>\n<p>Bruce, you know that I like you (you&#8217;re a smart guy, talented and personable), but I think you are doing a disservice to yourself, your current employer and others by thread spotting here.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Since I can&#8217;t reply to Mr. handyman over there, here&#8217;s my reply here.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>First of all, LeAnn Creasy revealed her own name long before I did. As for you, being the staunch defender of conservative principles, I find it disingenuous that you would encourage someone to assume a new identity to &#8220;hide&#8221; from public scrutiny of their comments. Her right to free speech does not come with the right to avoid the controversy that comes with that free speech.<\/li>\n<li>Next, I&#8217;m disappointed that you feel that calling out the religion-cloaked disdain of a societal group is a &#8220;disservice&#8221;. Discrimination in any form (even as mild as this, being done by only one narrow-minded person) should be condemned strongly and publicly. Perhaps you failed to notice the disapproval of other people who posted in that thread. I have (and had) no fear of being banned from that website therefore I always spoke my mind and continue to do that today.<\/li>\n<li>Finally, you&#8217;re completely wrong about me doing a disservice to my employer. My employer strongly urges me to have my own opinions and to continue to express them. SouthsideCentral has absolutely no relation to Star News and both parties have made that clear. Unsurprisingly, discrimination in the form that LeAnn has shown makes an excellent topic for our discussion shows. I&#8217;d love to hear more from our viewers on this issue whether they agree or disagree with me, and I&#8217;m 100% confident that our viewers will want to see that discussion as well.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong>Update #2<\/strong>: Darrin comes up with some reply about SouthsideCentral&#8217;s TipLine Policy and how it is similar to something that Mr. <strong>handyman<\/strong> wrote. I have no idea what the hell he&#8217;s talking about. Every media source has to be willing to listen to anonymous tips but unlike Halifax Talk (which offers instant publication), I don&#8217;t run them unless they&#8217;re checked out first and verified. <\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong>Update #3<\/strong>: LeAnn posts this um&#8230; interesting remark&#8230;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I never told Bruce who I was PB. I don&#8217;t hang out with him and don&#8217;t appreciate idiots using my name on some crappy blog without my permission. If I have to take Bruce to court if something happens to my or my property, believe me I WILL.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Let&#8217;s go to the Big Board, shall we?<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>I don&#8217;t need anybody&#8217;s permission to use their name here.<\/li>\n<li>&#8220;Crappy&#8221;? Bwahahahaha!<\/li>\n<li>Now let&#8217;s get to the really fun part, the threat of her taking me to court. My reply is &#8220;Bring it on because you&#8217;ve got nothing.&#8221; This is coming from the woman <a href=\"http:\/\/halifaxtalk.com\/phpBB\/viewtopic.php?p=166320#166320\" target=\"_blank\">who has threatened asinine legal action before<\/a>. I&#8217;m not scared one bit of her blustering.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<hr>\n<p><strong>Update #4<\/strong>: Now she&#8217;s blustering about the fact that her Secret Identity was Maliciously Revealed&#8230;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8230;i never revealed myself here, only my close friends knew who i was. get your facts right.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&#8230;only to have her &#8220;facts&#8221; immediately blown out of the water by other people. LeAnn immediately races to do a WWJD (What Would Jesus Delete?) on her self-identification on Facebook, but Mr. <strong>Bateman<\/strong> remains multiple steps ahead and takes a screen capture to prove his point. LeAnn then gets all Revelations on their asses and starts making her Enemies List (which worked so well for Richard Nixon, didn&#8217;t it?). After that, she restates her Lionel Hutz Legal Theory that says that I had no right to post her name without her permission and calls the people idiots for not buying her irrationality. <\/p>\n<p>When the comedy has written itself as it has here, Jesus <del>wept<\/del> pulled up a lawnchair, pointed and laughed.<\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><strong>Update #5<\/strong>: (in a Larry King voice) Let&#8217;s go to our next caller. Darrin from Halifax County, Hello!<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8230;Now a message for Bruce:<\/p>\n<p>If you do not have to follow the rules here of respecting anybody who wants to remain anonymous, why should anyone believe that you will respect your own policy on your blog of keeping a source anonymous? Lord knows you&#8217;ve shown if there is a chance for controversy, you will drop names.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Thanks for the call, Darrin. Since you posted your question at your board, I appreciate it if you would post my answer to it at your board as well. It would be the right thing to do. You&#8217;re always welcome to comment here and my offer of partnership between WMDV-TV &#038; HalifaxTalk still stands even though you&#8217;ve never acknowledged it nor given an answer publicly.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s my answer to your question: I&#8217;ve never revealed an anonymous source&#8217;s name on SouthsideCentral or at work and I never will. You may try to insinuate that I have, but I dare you to show any proof that I have. Also, I feel that your &#8220;Never Guess Nor Reveal&#8221; rule is asinine. One reason that Halifax Talk has never gained traction with governmental and business leaders of the community is because of the incessant sniping by &#8220;anonymous&#8221; people. When&#8217;s the last time that the IDA or John Cannon have posted?  <\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><strong>Update #6<\/strong> (a new record for # of updates&#8230; yay!): (done in the same Larry King voice) Let&#8217;s take another call. Riverdale, VA! HELLO!<\/p>\n<blockquote><p> You should read what I posted and not just assume what you want. Again, the question:<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;If you do not have to follow the rules here of respecting anybody who wants to remain anonymous, why should anyone believe that you will respect your own policy on your blog of keeping a source anonymous? Lord knows you&#8217;ve shown if there is a chance for controversy, you will drop names.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>On the Internet, it&#8217;s hard to repeat my answer slowly so that you can understand it. But hey, I&#8217;ll give it a try. (reading slowly) I&#8217;ve. never. revealed. an. anonymous. source&#8217;s. name. on. SouthsideCentral. or. at. work. and. I. never. will. You. may. try. to. insinuate. that. I. have. but. I. dare. you. to. show. any. proof. that. I. have.<\/p>\n<p>Whew. Caller? Got anything else?<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Now you want a public answer to your ridiculous proposal? I am not interested in a partnership with you, at all.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Lots of other people didn&#8217;t think <a href=\"http:\/\/www.southsidecentral.com\/wordpress\/2010\/08\/08\/an-open-letter-to-my-halifaxtalk-friends\/\" target=\"_blank\">my offer<\/a> was &#8220;ridiculous&#8221;. Anyway, here&#8217;s a piece of unsolicited business advice for you. If you keep summarily rejecting potential business partnerships that could be beneficial even in a small amount to you like this one, it&#8217;s going to be a lot harder for you to own &#8220;Darrin&#8217;s Honda&#8221;. <\/p>\n<p>Seriously, thanks for putting my first answer on your board in a unedited format. I hope that you&#8217;ll do the same with this one. The offer still stands if you ever decide to think rationally and consider it objectively. And you&#8217;re always welcome to be a guest on a show. You&#8217;d make Real Good TV. (Oh yeah, you&#8217;re welcome to visit anytime as well.)<\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><strong>Update #7<\/strong>: Let&#8217;s just make this one quick. Darrin thinks I need him more than he needs me &#038; that the offer is from an unproven company and public access television. That thought of is as logical as the rest of his thought processes, nuff&#8217; said. Anyway, back to the main topic.<\/p>\n<p>Darrin continues to insinuate that I can&#8217;t be trusted by potential anonymous sources because I had the nerve to mention LeAnn&#8217;s real name. He fails to provide any kind of proof for that then when he&#8217;s questioned about it, he says he&#8217;s not going to find proof. Listen up, buddy. Your claim, your search. Anyway, after that he says it&#8217;s been so long enough ago that he doesn&#8217;t remember the details. If you can&#8217;t remember the details, Darrin, it wasn&#8217;t that important to you. Keep blustering anyway&#8230; it makes you sound important.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s one quote from another person that I want to address so that I can make my point clear&#8230;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Not taking sides, but isn&#8217;t it a bit indiscreet to reveal some one the way Bruce did? We all know who GH is. We all know who most of the posters here are, but do we reveal that info to &#8220;strangers&#8221; or &#8220;lurkers&#8221;? Should we? It&#8217;s certainly a question of ethics.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>It&#8217;s NOT a &#8220;question of ethics&#8221;. There&#8217;s no ethical issues involved. &#8220;Strangers&#8221; &#038; &#8220;lurkers&#8221; are everywhere and if you&#8217;re going to hide from them, get off the Internet now and lock yourself in the house. Here&#8217;s another point for you to consider around the &#8220;ethics&#8221; question. If someone is stupid enough to make an offensive statement as LeAnn&#8217;s, that becomes newsworthy in itself. <\/p>\n<p>Bottom Line: You might not like the fact that I broke your Sacred Rule, but your Sacred Rule was a Stupid Rule to begin with. When people can snipe away anonymously with no fear of being named because of a Stupid Rule, you get people like that quote&#8217;s author&#8217;s mother being called the Grand Wizard of the KKK. Remember that?  If <b>Ogy<\/b> was held accountable by his real name, perhaps things would be different. <\/p>\n<p>Bottomer Line: I don&#8217;t live in fear of Darrin Talbott or being banned from HalifaxTalk like a lot of the people seem to do. If he&#8217;s The Emperor, I&#8217;m the one who&#8217;s proud to say that he has on No Clothes. 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